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Offline cindy

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hit bot cheating
« on: May 09, 2009, 07:23:35 PM »
hello friends,

i am going to ask a newbie question. about every 3-5day my site gets hammered with clicks in the "not_counted" stat. like maybe 1500-2000 hits in a hour or so, and i think it could be hurting my traffic. 

Please any advice on what this is and what should i do?

respectfully,
cindy

this is where i think they are comming from,here is the info on the clicks:
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=85.222.114.71


OrgName:    RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID:      RIPE
Address:    P.O. Box 10096
City:       Amsterdam
StateProv: 
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country:    NL

ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43

NetRange:   85.0.0.0 - 85.255.255.255
CIDR:       85.0.0.0/8
NetName:    85-RIPE
NetHandle:  NET-85-0-0-0-1
Parent:     
NetType:    Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
NameServer: NS.LACNIC.NET

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 04:02:16 PM »
ban this ip via htaccess, google for "htaccess block ip" and problem solved ;)

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009, 05:18:54 PM »
hello,

i think i can do the block ip in .htacess, but i don't understand what you mean about "google for "htaccess block ip"

thank you for your help

this is what is already in my .htacess file, should't that ip have been blocked already?

AddType text/html .html .shtml
AddHandler server-parsed .html .shtml

Order Deny,Allow
Deny from 85.255.114

ErrorDocument 404 http://www.mysite.com/404.shtml
« Last Edit: May 10, 2009, 05:25:11 PM by cindy »

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 07:39:06 AM »
hello friends,

advice needed again. i'm getting about 1500hits in one hour in the "nocookie" "clicks" col. from:
OrgName:    Latin American and Caribbean IP address Regional Registry
OrgID:      LACNIC
Address:    Rambla Republica de Mexico 6125
City:       Montevideo
StateProv: 
PostalCode: 11400
Country:    UY

ReferralServer: whois://whois.lacnic.net

NetRange:   190.0.0.0 - 190.255.255.255
CIDR:       190.0.0.0/8
NetName:    NET190
NetHandle:  NET-190-0-0-0-1
Parent:     
NetType:    Allocated to LACNIC
NameServer: NS.LACNIC.NET
NameServer: NS2.LACNIC.NET
NameServer: NS-SEC.RIPE.NET
NameServer: NS2.DNS.BR
NameServer: NS3.AFRINIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET

is this a cheater? and should i block 190.230.68 ip like this in htaccess file?

respectfully learning,
cin

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 09:05:18 AM »
first of all correct whois for 190.230.68.* should be ...

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inetnum:     190.230.68/23
status:      reallocated
owner:       Apolo -Gold-Telecom-Per
ownerid:     AR-APGO-LACNIC
responsible: Aseguramiento de Datos
address:     Dorrego, 2520, piso 3°
address:     1425 - Capital Federal -
country:     AR
phone:       +54 11 4968-7975 []
owner-c:     ADA
tech-c:      ADA
abuse-c:     ADA
created:     20090415
changed:     20090415
inetnum-up:  190.228/14

nic-hdl:     ADA
person:      Administrador Abuse
e-mail:      abuse@TA.TELECOM.COM.AR
address:     Dorrego, 2520, Piso 7
address:     1425 - Buenos Aires -
country:     AR
phone:       +54 11 4968 [4900]
created:     20030211
changed:     20081010

... and is a fresh new (1 month old) IP network (re)allocation. Maybe there is some "Searching-Bot" or "Crawler" behind because this is mostly an indice to be "nocookie". If you don't want nocookie traffic send them to /dev/null or to "gallery" within the Settings/OUT/TrafficURL.

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 08:17:18 AM »
hello friends,

you say "If you don't want nocookie traffic send them to /dev/null or to "gallery" within the Settings/OUT/TrafficURL."

is nocookie traffic the same traffic as the 1000hits in an hour from81.103.100.21 in the nocookie stats? I am confused? is nocookie traffic good? i don't think it would be good to send those phony hits as "Send as
usual traffic". i guess i have both, hit bot cheater hits and normal hits in the nocookie stats. i don't think these hits from these bots should be considered "nocookie traffic" since i think they are not real surfers. please express your comments please.

i need some more advice please. since i have started paying attention to this i have noticed that about every 2-3 days I'm getting a bunch of hits in the "not counted" "and nocookie" stats.

what is the best way to handel this? I have been trying to block with htaccess but i think my list it going to get long, but is that to proper way to handle these hits?

do i do anything at all? they really throw my stats off. is this hurting traffic, in and out? what whould you do?

how the biggest most productive sites you know (i won't mention any sites) handle "nocookie traffic". i trade at box1 100 and box8 70, is this good to grow site with quality traders? many trades require a minimum of 70% production to keep trade alive, that is why i use 100 and 70, what are your feeling about this thinking?

i am sorry for asking so many question, i'm trying to learn the proper ways to manage, tweek and understanding traffic script. learning the proper use of all the features and functions.

once again, thank you for sharing your knowlege
respectfully,
cin


my htaccess. i think these are the hit bots?
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from 82.0.0.0/8
Deny from 85.255.114
Deny from 85.222.114.71
Deny from 190.230.68
Deny from 190.230.68.185
Deny from 118.243.168.175
Deny from 81.103.100.21
Deny from 82.232.179.148
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mysite\.com [nc]

As of todays numbers NEWEST nocookie info:
ip:91.109.21.161 clicks=2492 nocookie: 2490 (0)

As of 5-19-09@11:00pm NEWSET of ips, same place this "Amsterdam" thing..91.205.124.17 :'( :'( :'(
Please, does everyone get this or just my site? why is this happeing to my site? what would you do?
thanks,
cin
« Last Edit: May 19, 2009, 06:59:05 PM by cindy »

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2009, 04:10:48 PM »
i guess i have both, hit bot cheater hits and normal hits in the nocookie stats. i don't think these hits from these bots should be considered "nocookie traffic" since i think they are not real surfers. please express your comments please.

sorry for late responce in fact of some holiday time. Don't use to send "nocookie" as normal hits or trading hits. Mostly you will find a lot of search engines like google-bot in nocookie section too. My experiance is that sometimes it can help to send the nocookie to a other own site and from that send it back ... like a circle ... because of most nocookie hits (as I know from my sites) are from search engines. so if you will have like 4 sites you can send it through that 4 sites to get better indexed in the search engines but never on not one site send it out to any other site if it isn't your own one.

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Re: hit bot cheating
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 04:25:04 PM »
Great info...thanks