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Trade Pulse Support / no ins, but clicks
« on: December 05, 2011, 11:31:22 AM »
I see this from a trade:
24 hours:
in: 0
out: 24
clicks: 18
24 hours:
in: 0
out: 24
clicks: 18
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Out Settings?
« on: November 18, 2011, 08:20:34 AM »
thank you 4 confirming 
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Out Settings?
« on: November 18, 2011, 07:05:17 AM »
agree. 
and finally I understand. (I suppose).
So based on above, in the COUNTED CLICKS section I unchecked no_image (to/from), filtered (to/from), spiders and nocookie (to),
and in TABLE OF SPEC. OUT SETTINGS, I send to gallery:
no_image,
nocookie,
noref_out,
filtered,
I have no problem with proxy and 'fast click' so I leave them as normal.
Is this correct settings then - Killdozer?
Nice to know that trades won't get credit for crap.
and finally I understand. (I suppose).
So based on above, in the COUNTED CLICKS section I unchecked no_image (to/from), filtered (to/from), spiders and nocookie (to),
and in TABLE OF SPEC. OUT SETTINGS, I send to gallery:
no_image,
nocookie,
noref_out,
filtered,
I have no problem with proxy and 'fast click' so I leave them as normal.
Is this correct settings then - Killdozer?
Nice to know that trades won't get credit for crap.
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Trade Pulse Support / negative values ?
« on: November 14, 2011, 12:23:28 PM »
NETWORK > STATS
I see negative values at gallery clicks and gallery prod.
??
I see negative values at gallery clicks and gallery prod.
??
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Trade Pulse Support / can you set thumb grabber to less than 1 hour?
« on: November 03, 2011, 01:50:45 AM »
can I use like: 0.5 ?
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: ScriptPulse needs your help: SUPPORT US with 2% of clicks!
« on: October 27, 2011, 11:56:44 PM »
''my history with you is that you trade with known hitbotters, i messaged you on icq to let you know, you told me i'm wrong then felt the need to start giving me unsolicited advice. kinda like right now. ''
1st of all, I did not tell you you were wrong, I asked you to explain me what is wrong with those domains - which you were unable to do so.
You boasted there as well that you have been doing this for years and you have a full time income from this, etc... fine. If so, how come you could not even briefly explain what cheater sites do? How come the layout of your sites is so poor?
Your sites look like the homeworks of elementary school students on their 1st lesson on 'plain html' - not regarding the content naturally.
To give you a hint of constructive advice - your choice if you want to use it or not: You should place nice top lists close to the top of your sites.
Fortunately thou I got PM from other webmasters about those cheating sites as well and now those are blocked on all my sites.
I appreciate you contact me about those trades, however you looked like you have no idea WHY those are cheating sites other than you read it on a forum. You certainly were unable to say even a word of constructive advice.
Anyway, this discussion is not for this support forum.
And yes, the support forum is for support and you can see that often users contact support not only when they run into difficulties but when they are curious about some features and want to find out more.
ah, back to the original discussion, TP is good even with 2% skim
1st of all, I did not tell you you were wrong, I asked you to explain me what is wrong with those domains - which you were unable to do so.
You boasted there as well that you have been doing this for years and you have a full time income from this, etc... fine. If so, how come you could not even briefly explain what cheater sites do? How come the layout of your sites is so poor?
Your sites look like the homeworks of elementary school students on their 1st lesson on 'plain html' - not regarding the content naturally.
To give you a hint of constructive advice - your choice if you want to use it or not: You should place nice top lists close to the top of your sites.
Fortunately thou I got PM from other webmasters about those cheating sites as well and now those are blocked on all my sites.
I appreciate you contact me about those trades, however you looked like you have no idea WHY those are cheating sites other than you read it on a forum. You certainly were unable to say even a word of constructive advice.
Anyway, this discussion is not for this support forum.
And yes, the support forum is for support and you can see that often users contact support not only when they run into difficulties but when they are curious about some features and want to find out more.
ah, back to the original discussion, TP is good even with 2% skim
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: ScriptPulse needs your help: SUPPORT US with 2% of clicks!
« on: October 27, 2011, 08:45:14 AM »
2% is ok, it's far from 'retarded'. Most other free trade scripts take like 1.5% so 2% is ok, especially as TP is above average in customization.
@bracey
Imho if you cannot grow traffic and think that sites will 'lose traffic' just because of that 1% extra taken away I suggest you have a look at your sites. Not wanting to criticize but man, you put zero effort into design and zero effort into layout, zero effort into top lists ... and you are worried that that 1% will bring down the revenue and traffic of your sites.
Hint: the problem is not in the trade script.
@bracey
Imho if you cannot grow traffic and think that sites will 'lose traffic' just because of that 1% extra taken away I suggest you have a look at your sites. Not wanting to criticize but man, you put zero effort into design and zero effort into layout, zero effort into top lists ... and you are worried that that 1% will bring down the revenue and traffic of your sites.
Hint: the problem is not in the trade script.
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Anti Cheat ?
« on: October 22, 2011, 02:14:35 PM »
yes, you helped it's all cool, thanks dude!
allright I dont delete it. I use anti cheat modifier thou.
allright I dont delete it. I use anti cheat modifier thou.
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Anti Cheat ?
« on: October 22, 2011, 05:23:10 AM »
hi,
thanks 4 info but you did not answer all my question:
nocookie,
noref_out,
filtered,
fast clicks
the 'recommended value' is
To content,
if url= specified
and to
[Traffic URL] if none
according to the radio buttons hover over info.
I am not trying to argue, simply I just noticed this is contradictory information.
Ok, so you say all kind of traffic should be checked in the 1st column. Send as usual. correct?
You did not answer my question:
2, out ref.%
I see one trade here that has:
mydomain.com?x=4917.9731.6106. (5)
this also has noimage 100% !!!
This is the 1st time I see something like this, should I delete this trade? Linking directly to my out.php? This is cheater, right?
Thanks again!
thanks 4 info but you did not answer all my question:
nocookie,
noref_out,
filtered,
fast clicks
the 'recommended value' is
To content,
if url= specified
and to
[Traffic URL] if none
according to the radio buttons hover over info.
I am not trying to argue, simply I just noticed this is contradictory information.
Ok, so you say all kind of traffic should be checked in the 1st column. Send as usual. correct?
You did not answer my question:
2, out ref.%
I see one trade here that has:
mydomain.com?x=4917.9731.6106. (5)
this also has noimage 100% !!!
This is the 1st time I see something like this, should I delete this trade? Linking directly to my out.php? This is cheater, right?
Thanks again!
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Anti Cheat ?
« on: October 21, 2011, 08:17:53 AM »
as well...
you have TABLE OF SPECIALIZED OUT SETTINGS,
and I see if you hover your mouse over the radio buttons you see 'recommended value'.
If these are the recommended settings, why these are not the default settings???
Explain me that please.
you have TABLE OF SPECIALIZED OUT SETTINGS,
and I see if you hover your mouse over the radio buttons you see 'recommended value'.
If these are the recommended settings, why these are not the default settings???
Explain me that please.
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: Anti Cheat ?
« on: October 21, 2011, 07:56:43 AM »
also, IP variance % looks like this at some trades:
? (?)
??
? (?)
??
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Trade Pulse Support / Anti Cheat ?
« on: October 21, 2011, 07:51:21 AM »
Please help me understand anti cheat page info..
1, IP variance % ?
this should be low I guess.
2, out ref.%
I see one trade here that has:
mydomain.com?x=4917.9731.6106. (5)
this also has noimage 100% !!!
3, what is proxy CI?
thanks
1, IP variance % ?
this should be low I guess.
2, out ref.%
I see one trade here that has:
mydomain.com?x=4917.9731.6106. (5)
this also has noimage 100% !!!
3, what is proxy CI?
thanks
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: notcounted traffic is going to trades and influencing return
« on: October 16, 2011, 06:13:05 AM »I suspect that what could have happened is that somehow a bot escaped detection via the other detection means (they can be sneaky) and then proceeded to run up lots of clicks with the regular percentage going to trades. But since it's a bot not interested in other sites it didn't click on the trade's sites after being skimed. That gave a of crappy prod to his trades. Then to top it off the favorable dynamic skim kicked in based on those Not Counted clicks out and killed his sites even more. I could be wrong but this seems possible.
hi allniche!
Yes, I think this is exactly what happened! And of course I could send notcounted traffic to galleries always, but notcounted is also human traffic who just happens to like my site a lot. Thanks for brainstorming the situation because I think what you described actually happened.
Looks like there is no good solution. I could increase the clicks to count value. By the way, why is it 15 by default? Basically, if you have lots of trades, you can increase this value, so even in case of lots of clicks from one unique (say, 30 clicks) will be ok because they will be distributed just fine to your trades without sending the same unique to a certain trade multiple times?
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Trade Pulse Support / Re: notcounted traffic is going to trades and influencing return
« on: October 15, 2011, 10:27:48 PM »
Killdozer, hi
I have Version 1.0.7 build 38.
I have count clicks from user: 15 clicks
After 15 clicks, clicks are collected (for administrative purposes) under 'notcounted' column.
In fact however, those clicks are going out to the galleries/trades, which is fine.
The problem is: the clicks going out to trades (I am talking about the 'notcounted' hits) are administratively added up to the 'out to trades' counter.
So, they dilute dynamic skim.
Imho, notcounted hits should go normally to trades/galleries as they do (because I set in table of specialized out settings to be treated as normal traffic), HOWEVER these should not be counted administratively = they should not be added up to trades out !
This is still the case.
I am unable to use dynamic skim based on return, because I cannot get realistic figures.
Imho, the traffic that should be administratively 'counted' and added up to the 'out to trades' should be real human traffic as well as only traffic that is within the 'clicks to count from user'.
So:
1. clicks to trades, coming from trades (this is already like this)
2. bookmark traffic (this is already like this)
3. search engine traffic (this is already like this)
4. no trade human traffic (this is already like this)
5. no ref in traffic (this is already like this)
robots traffic definitely should not be added up to outs to trade administratively, and you already fixed that.
nocookie traffic the same, and you fixed that as well (we have choice to count it or no)
HOWEVER: notcounted traffic!
This should also go normally out as regular traffic, right, since it is HUMAN traffic as well!
BUT!!!!
It should not be added up administratively to the 'out to trades', because it is more than the 'clicks to count from user value.
Please tell me if you think differently.
Let me tell you: after upgrading to Ion Cube version I used dynamic for one day (based on return of course). I was not around, I did not even look at my TPs for one day. Result after one day: I lost 70% of my traffic.
Why?
because 'notcounted' was huge, (people clicked much much more time than 15), and all that was going out to trades (which is fine), however It was counted and added to 'out to trades' value, so my return looked great, and TP switched to very friendly skim (based on my dynamic rules).
And I lost massive traffic.
For now, I still cannot use dynamic based on return.
Regards!
I have Version 1.0.7 build 38.
I have count clicks from user: 15 clicks
After 15 clicks, clicks are collected (for administrative purposes) under 'notcounted' column.
In fact however, those clicks are going out to the galleries/trades, which is fine.
The problem is: the clicks going out to trades (I am talking about the 'notcounted' hits) are administratively added up to the 'out to trades' counter.
So, they dilute dynamic skim.
Imho, notcounted hits should go normally to trades/galleries as they do (because I set in table of specialized out settings to be treated as normal traffic), HOWEVER these should not be counted administratively = they should not be added up to trades out !
This is still the case.
I am unable to use dynamic skim based on return, because I cannot get realistic figures.
Imho, the traffic that should be administratively 'counted' and added up to the 'out to trades' should be real human traffic as well as only traffic that is within the 'clicks to count from user'.
So:
1. clicks to trades, coming from trades (this is already like this)
2. bookmark traffic (this is already like this)
3. search engine traffic (this is already like this)
4. no trade human traffic (this is already like this)
5. no ref in traffic (this is already like this)
robots traffic definitely should not be added up to outs to trade administratively, and you already fixed that.
nocookie traffic the same, and you fixed that as well (we have choice to count it or no)
HOWEVER: notcounted traffic!
This should also go normally out as regular traffic, right, since it is HUMAN traffic as well!
BUT!!!!
It should not be added up administratively to the 'out to trades', because it is more than the 'clicks to count from user value.
Please tell me if you think differently.
Let me tell you: after upgrading to Ion Cube version I used dynamic for one day (based on return of course). I was not around, I did not even look at my TPs for one day. Result after one day: I lost 70% of my traffic.
Why?
because 'notcounted' was huge, (people clicked much much more time than 15), and all that was going out to trades (which is fine), however It was counted and added to 'out to trades' value, so my return looked great, and TP switched to very friendly skim (based on my dynamic rules).
And I lost massive traffic.
For now, I still cannot use dynamic based on return.
Regards!